and let's assume someone wants to be a c.e.o. inone case, a senator in another case, a president in the a third case, which is the best education for them? >> oh, gosh. i mean, i would suppose... >> rose: liberal arts? >> in all three cases, learning about the world at large, learning history, learning nguage, learning history, learning about politics, learng a lot about science because i think you can't live in the modern world without knowing a lot about scien. if y're planning t become president i would say there's something wrong with you because that's not what you're planning when you're starting to go to school. >> rose: i know people who said there was talk about barack obama becoming president when he was in law school. >> when he was in kibd guard. >> rose: (laughs) >> no, no... >> rose: so there's something wrong with him, then? >> no, i think it's like the kid who wants to be fireman.